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Thinking of Permanently Installing a Generator?

The Village of Garden City reminds residents of the requirements.

Thinking of permanently installing a generator in your home?
Thinking of permanently installing a generator in your home?
After the mess Sandy left in her wake, many who lost power - and those still without - may be considering permanently installing a generator in their home.

The Village of Garden City reminds residents of the requirements:
  • Applications for Mechanical, Electrical and *Plumbing Permits  (* if unit runs on natural gas).
  • Fees for each permit are $115 for the first $1,000 of estimated cost, plus $15 for each additional $1,000 in cash or check payable to the Incorporated  Village of Garden City.
  • Copy of survey indicating location of unit which must be in rear half of property (or rear interior quarter on corner plots) and not less than ten (10) feet from any property line.
  • Two sets of plans, specifications, manufacturer’s cut sheets and installation instructions.
  • Worker’s Compensation & Disability Insurance Certificates (not Accord form) for each contractor.
  • Noise level cannot exceed 56 decibels at the nearest property line certified by an International Noise Control Engineer (INCE).
  • Inspections include, but are not limited to, roughing and final. Requests made at least one day in advance with permit number.
gedyoung30 November 08, 2012 at 10:10 AM
That's the most "tone deaf" and inconsiderate postI have read, No electricity for ten days and THIS is what you tell us? Shame on your timing, Garden City !!!
Jose Iudica November 08, 2012 at 10:18 AM
My favorite part of this is the decibel requirements...56 decibels is quieter than 2 people having a normal conversation..let me get this straight I pay some of the highest taxes in the land but I can't protect my family from the cold because there are no generators that are "quiet" enough for the village?? 10 days without power!
Jack O'Niel November 08, 2012 at 10:28 AM
10 days and still a pole down in the backyard. What a joke. I'm thinking solar and can't wait to hear the restrictions on that.
Anthony Riggi November 08, 2012 at 11:14 AM
Not 100% sure but you might be able to install the electrical hook up from the panel out to a 30 amp weather proof outlet on side of your house. Then plug your portable generator to it. I believe it is called "interlock". Search on you tube. I would imagine you still need a permit for the electrical but as far as noise and plumbing, might not need. Safer then running extension cords all over the place !!!!
Anthony Riggi November 08, 2012 at 11:15 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GbtRxcb-cmA&feature=youtube_gdata_player something like this
Jose Iudica November 08, 2012 at 11:19 AM
Thanks the reason I want a permanent solution is I don't want to deal with gas lines for the portable generators and i don't like the idea of storing propane tanks on my property
Anthony Riggi November 08, 2012 at 11:23 AM
They make portable Gas generators. Need plumbing permit but get around the "decibel" rule. good luck !!
Ron Tadross November 08, 2012 at 12:19 PM
Agree completely. Garden City has been radio silent and in bunker mode and now they are telling us what to do so we remain hostage to LIPA. The mayor and his trustee buddies ought to wake up and start acting like leaders.
D.R.St-Jacques November 08, 2012 at 12:27 PM
Guess that the high fee structure is thought to be necessary in this village so that this income can now be applied toward the expense of removing tree leaves that had not been picked up, allowed to accumulate and are now buried under snow.
Carisa Giardino (Editor) November 08, 2012 at 12:32 PM
This reminder is one of several updates on the village's website right now. At the Nov. 1 board meeting, building superintendent Mike Filippon said many residents were filing complaints about noise from generators. "We think its prudent to waive any noise restrictions until this crisis is over," he told Mayor Don Brudie, who agreed, saying, "I think that's fair." Filippon said he's seen an "uptick for permits for generators" since Irene.
gedyoung30 November 08, 2012 at 12:40 PM
The noise from all those trees falling is deafening..please make it stop!
Jose Iudica November 08, 2012 at 12:47 PM
I don't even care about the fees...thats par for the course in GC...its the restrictions that are almost impossible to comply with...I would like the town to increase the decibel limit...there are no generators on the market that are that quiet...the lowest I have seen is 62 decibels...I understand not wanting to hear a generator in the middle of the night but I will definitely invite my neighbors without power to enjoy my electricity in return for their patience...a tradeoff many would make right now...lets just have some common sense here
Perry Capitani November 08, 2012 at 01:10 PM
Given how loud some people's generators are in my neighborhood, I wouldn't worry about the rule. No one is enforcing this.
Steve F November 08, 2012 at 02:38 PM
Jose Ludica, just a heads up......talk a plumber before going anything further with the natural gas generator. I know in the Estates I have low pressure gas with a 1 1/4" service. That is not adequate to fire a generator, along with a furnace, hot water heater, stove, etc. That means you would have to pay National Grid to come and run a new service from the street to your house.
Steve I November 08, 2012 at 08:15 PM
The generator you show in the photo may be part of a recall due to a fire hazard. See story at: http://www.longislandpress.com/2012/11/06/champion-generator-recall-model-numbers-recalled/
Carisa Giardino (Editor) November 08, 2012 at 08:54 PM
Yes Steve, you're right this one was recalled. (I just used this as a file photo). Here's the story we did on it: http://gardencity.patch.com/groups/hurricane/p/costco-generators-recalled-because-of-possible-fuel-leaks
Lurman November 09, 2012 at 08:41 AM
The noise in an average home is about 50 decibels and the sound of an air conditioner running or conversational speech is about 60 decibels. To say the Code is moronic is an understatement. A particularly loud fart could hit 60 db.
GKLK911 November 13, 2012 at 10:56 AM
Clearly these restrictions will discourage residents from installing permanent generators, which are generally only as noisy as the typical A/C condenser/compressor unit, and are safer due to the permanent connections to electrical and natural gas lines. Instead, residents will no doubt buy the far noisier portable models, will continue to run extension cords all over the house, and will be storing larger quantities of gasoline in garages and sheds than prior to Sandy for fear of having no electricity AND no fuel. Well done, Village Trustees, well done…

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