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GCFD Dispatching Duties Turned Over to Firecom

Change went into effect Monday at 9 a.m.

Patch has learned that all Garden City Fire Department dispatching duties were turned over to Nassau County Firecom effective 9 a.m. Monday.

This was one of 14 recommendations included in an 85-page report analyzing the village's fire services. The village board of trustees engaged the International City/County Management Association (ICMA) to provide the report at a cost of $36,000.

As first reported on Friday, trustees directed village administrator Robert Schoelle in writing to have two recommendations implemented immediately - #8: Change dispatch to Firecom to improve dispatch/turnout time and allow continued achievement of response time performance and #6: Eliminate staffing at satellite stations during night hours. Review the necessity for daytime staffing at the satellite stations following the recommended change in dispatching. 

Recommendation #8 took effect today while recommendation #6 has not yet been implemented.

Chief Charles Cavarra, who just returned from a chiefs' convention in Colorado, confirmed Monday that he too received the board's directive. "The dispatching was easy and simple and something that should've been done years ago," Cavarra said regarding the switch to Firecom.

He said the department's dispatch time is currently in the "5 and 6 minute" range when dispatching should really be in the "one minute to one-and-a-half minute area."

"Response time is dispatch time and travel time so our overall response time would drop," he said.

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As for the recommendation to reduce manning, Chief Cavarra said he, his assistant chiefs and company officers are currently discussing the options and "playing with the numbers" to figure out the best way to operate.

"The report is an overall evaluation that included some very efficient suggestions," he added.

While Chief Cavarra says the move to Firecom will actual reduce overall response time, some say just the opposite.

An anonymous source close to the situation told Patch the switch has its drawbacks: "If someone dialed 746-2800, which is the Garden City village emergency line, it would ring in all three firehouses. This way all of the firefighters in all three firehouses could hear the call. Stations 2 and 3 could hang up the phone and go right out the door. Now if someone dials the village fire emergency number the caller is only heard by the FC dispatcher. The FC dispatcher has to key it into a computer to find the house on a map. Next he needs to key all of the information into an alarm sheet. After that's all done he tones out the alarm via radio which is when all of us will first be alarted about the alarm. This will delay the response from all stations."

zerosumgame August 6, 2012 at 08:35 pm
Chief Cavarra said "he, his assistant chiefs and company officers are currently discussing the options and "playing with the numbers" to figure out the best way to operate."
"Discussing options and playing with numbers" for closing fire stations is in reality playing Russian Roulette with lives.
kk August 6, 2012 at 09:16 pm
This is a much better way of putting calls out. What if someone is trapped in their bedroom because their house is on fire? The Garden City Career Firefighter would answer their phone call and then have to hang up on them to respond to the fire. What if the person who is trapped decides to move or their condition changes? This information would not be conveyed to the responding units. Nassau County Fire Dispatch has the ability to stay on the line with the trapped person and give advice while also relaying important information to responding units.
MC August 6, 2012 at 09:27 pm
Lets take a deep breath and really think about this. No municipality would ever take steps that would put citizens at a greater risk. We can speculate all we want, but simply put, we do not have all the facts. We should just let this all play out, attend all of the board meetings and get all of the information we can. I am extremely confident that this great village will continue to make the right decisions as they have for many many years.
DZ August 7, 2012 at 01:10 am
@MC or any other long time Garden City resident. Do you mind if I ask a question about the area since it sounds like you have been living there for quite some time? My wife and I are considering Garden City as we will be moving in a year or two. We like the area ( people, schools, proximity to manhattan, etc...) However one of my concerns is the proximity to Hempstead. I am having a hard time with the fact that I will be paying a pretty nice sum for a house that is within walking distance or can even be seen from across the road from an area like Hempstead. More recently I have seen a few articles on patch that have listed two different men with a string of burglaries each all in Garden City. Does this concern residents? Is this normal activity for this area. I understand you have your village police but that doesn't seem to have stopped these men, can you please provide some feedback, thanks.
thomas stoerger August 7, 2012 at 04:14 am
To answer your question "kk" , there used to be two(2) career firefighters assigned to HQ(Stewart Ave by Village Hall) in addition to the on duty career lieutenant. The key difference here is that (with no disrespect to Firecom) is that while talking with the resident/occupant the dispatcher would alert the Volunteer Firefighters(via pager) and the outlying stations stations(career staffing) would be listening to the caller and respond immediately as the Volunteer Force was being alerted by pager. Until recently the Engine(pumper would respond out of headquarters immediately without waiting to be alerted by Fire Communications) therefore not delaying a response!. It should also be noted that Nassau County Fire Communications dispatches for numerous other departments in the area, that in the event they are busy could cause a delay(ea: during storms etc.) whereas Garden City handled only alarms for the residents of the village.
K Dawg August 7, 2012 at 09:17 pm
Tom, there must be a time when the radio or phone is not manned by the Paid Fire Fighter, because all of the trucks leave for an alarm out of headquarters until the other company arrives from the other part of town that the call is not on, the radio and phones are backed up by fire com. If you listen to the radio transmissions you hear Fire Com backing up GCFD until the outlying Company arrives. It happens on every "General Alarm". No worries, Fire Comm are professional dispatchers that man the radios/phones 24/7. It just makes sense.
JT Cies August 8, 2012 at 01:21 am
Firecom (which is the backup communications and answering poing for the Garden City) lost all telephone and radio communications back in 2008 during a severe thunderstorm. The ONLY way a resident of our village was able to contact the FD directly was by calling 746-2800. That number rang in all 3 stations. It was not only on the village phone system, but had the good ole "ma bell" direct phone as a backup. I know - I was there for that. We could not contact Firecom by radio or telephone to request assistance from neighboring fire departments, LIPA, National Grid or anyone else. This is progress?
When the Garden City PD receives a call on 911 that requires the fire department, they could keep the caller on the line and tie it directly to the FD via a dedicated tie line. GCFD would have that call in seconds. Now, it goes to FIRECOM (in Westbury) who takes the information from the Garden City PD dispatcher, determines what town this call is coming from (they dispatch for many fire and ambulance departments) and only then alerts the GCFD. I am glad I didn't buy a home in the village. My driving force was a well equipped fire and police department that would be there at a moments notice. The residents that are doing this should be proud of themselves. When there is no timely response from the emergency services and it's YOUR home; YOUR family or your business I guess you'll figure it out.
JT Cies August 8, 2012 at 01:27 am
It is my understanding that the "powers that be" severed the ability for the on-duty firefighters in our village to answer or monitor emergency calls placed to the GCFD on 746-2800.
Great town to live or work in when the stuff is hitting the fan... On duty firefighters must now wait for a tone alert dispatch from FIRECOM to begin their response. Same with the volunteers. Anybody know a good lawyer?
WTF August 8, 2012 at 01:58 am
$36,000 for a report to save $75,000 in overtime? One wonders if the company hired to do the report went out to bid accordingly?
Kevin August 8, 2012 at 02:54 am
Looking in from the outside it apears that GC has it's own 911 PD dispatchers. Why not make them the FD dispatchers also.
Answering calls in the firehouse by personel who are not dedicated to dispatch duty only and leave for calls went out in the 50's when some depts used the local drug store or the funeral director to answer calls.
TJ August 8, 2012 at 03:57 am
Fire stations are not going to be closed.
Garden City is a privileged town to have full-time career firefighters. In every other town on Long Island (with the exception of Long Beach), Fire Departments are 100% volunteer, and are only staffed when volunteers respond.
Robert August 8, 2012 at 06:29 pm
What if volunteers didn't volunteer? Who protects my family and yours? What if I'm out late, tired and don't want to get up for a fire alarm, who helps my family? Oh yeah the other guys, but they may feel the same way or have been at the same party. No one in this upper middle class community wants to volunteer. Look at the numbers, close to 7000 homes and only around 100 volunteers. Why do three of the four fire chiefs live outside the village? What board members have voted for this? Which of them will publicly admit they placed a dollar amount on your families life?
hmmm August 8, 2012 at 08:00 pm
Per the article, only 45 out of 100 volunteers are interior fire fighters. What happens when most are at work, out of town, or at bar? How many are available to take care of our families? Heard professional fire fighter staffing has been reduced from 7 to 5 and is headed to 4. Need to restore not cut, like PD to protect our families.
truth August 9, 2012 at 12:21 am
If someone is trapped in their bedroom per a prior comment there is really not a whole bunch ofd stuff a dispatcther can do at that point. Are you going to tell them to hide under the bed, try to crawl somewhere ele, or whatever? This is not the WTC on a high floor - it's Garden City.
Carisa Giardino (Editor) August 10, 2012 at 02:32 am
In response to an email I just received from "thefacts2@aol.com" I did not delete any comments attached to this article. If you have something to say, please post it on this thread. I tried emailing you back but delivery "failed permanently." Thank you

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