McCarthy: Shootings are all too Common

Very Concerned Parent December 16, 2012 at 03:33 pm

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S.M. December 16, 2012 at 03:36 pm

This congresswoman is irrelevant and an empty suit. She has had ample time to push her agenda thru Congress. How she gets re-elected speaks volumes. Shame on youif you voted for her again. She is all bark with no bite. As a 15 year veteran of the PD, I am for gun control (extensive background checks, mental health analysis,etc..) but Mrs. McCarthy will just hole up in her office and continue to "no vote" on meaningful legislation. Look it up. Gun control advocate my foot. She has not put forth new ideas on the subject in years. Shame on you Congresswoman. This is the platform that got you elected. What do you really have to show for it? Obviously nothing has worked.

S.M. December 16, 2012 at 03:43 pm

One issue wonder is the perfect description of "Our Congresswoman." Her paycheck is tantamount to someone receiving a welfare check. Payment for nothing.

James Pirkle December 16, 2012 at 05:46 pm

Dear Carolyn,
Watched this morning's CBS "Sunday Morning" show and after hearing your comments I can't help but respond positively to your points. Our minds are running awash as we ask, “What in the world can we do to help prevent these kinds of atrocities?” There is a way out that has been “out there” for over 35 years. In the past, we have witnessed hundreds of youngsters throughout grades K-12 become more “other-oriented” regularly looking for and itemizing the good and positive traits of their own classmates week after week and in some schools, year after year. I have just finished the book about the program. I have no desire whatsoever to make money on this book. All I want to do is get the word “out there.” Our students, year-after-year, the opportunity to become more “other-focused,” and implement the program as an official component of the curriculum, dynamic changes come about in the minds of children as they become centered on the good and positive attributes of each other. They are steered away from an ego-centric path. They learn to respect each other, understand each other, and develop positive and supportive relationships among each other. I write to you because you are in a better position than I am right now to get the word out there. I request that you use whatever platform you choose to help others take a look at this program. jamespirkle@hotmail.com

PitBull December 16, 2012 at 07:35 pm

How is it no one is talking about the culture in this country, movies , tv shows and video games glorify killing. Our Kids see it all day long, they have become desensitized to what is real. Maybe Mrs McCarthy and rest of Washington should clean up hollywood before making new laws, oh that's right they can't they take millions of dollars in campaign money from Hollywood. They are as much to blame, as the gun makers

Tideline December 16, 2012 at 08:11 pm

Anyone want to bet that this demented shooter had a long school history of being in special classes, psychological evaluations (not good), short bus riding, etc and was allowed to stay with the normal kids, so he would not be made to feel diferent ? News flash, he was diferent and the parents both knew it and did nothing about it.

Jenn December 17, 2012 at 02:43 am

I have to agree that this really has nothing to do with guns, but more about the mental instability that caused this. This would have happened one way or another, with or without a gun. We need to deal with mental illness as a whole, and on the level of parental denial along with lack of treatment because of the denial - or worse, the lack of treatment because of the insurance companies lack of coverage.
I have a cousin through marraige who has an autism spectrum disorder, along with early onset schizophrenia and who knows what else because they are not done diagnosing her or getting her meds right. Given the right circumstances, we could all see her doing something like this. Here's the problem - facility after facility will not keep her. There aren't many places designed for violent autistic schizophrenics. They kick her out when she threatens her life or the lives of others. Then she has to start all over from the beginning with a trip to the hospital with a psych consult. They keep telling her parents that the places for her ill not take her until she is an adult, in 3 years. Can she wait? Maybe. Can we all wait? I'm not sure. How are the institutions helping our mentally diseased children BEFORE they get the chance to do this?

robert December 17, 2012 at 06:45 am

We need to change the laws in the right direction. Do you really think that miserable coward would have entered that school if he new that teachers and other professionals with no criminal backgrounds were legally armed to defend the school? I know that it is an uneasy feeling of teachers carrying guns in the schools with students present but it will at least give helpless kids a fighting chance the next time.

Tideline December 17, 2012 at 08:04 am

20 or 30 years ago, before much of the Mental Health funding in tbis country was eliminated and the mentally ill are now allowed to roam the streets unsupervised, Adam Manza would have been institutionalized. So now, even if he had no access to firearms, he likely would have driven his car through the school yard at recess or lunchtime and killed even more people. Everytime this happens, there is little to no discussion about doing anything about the broken mental heath care in this country. These shootings become just another opportunity for the Feinsteins and McCarthys to deprive law abiding citizens of their Constitutional Rights. My prediction is that they will FAIL on the Federal level, may have better luck here in NYS and will as always do nothing about the Mental healtcare system. Everytime this happens, it is always a withdrawn, loner who has had long term mental heath issues that have gone unaddressed. Has anyone seen a photo of the Gabby Giffords shooter ? You don't need a Psycology degree, to know there is a serious problem there.

Cypher December 17, 2012 at 12:52 pm

I totally agree with McCarthy. All States should have tough gun control laws like NY and CT. Everybody deserves a chance for their totally disarmed "loved" ones to be shot cowering in a corner so that they can launch a brand new political career off of their corpses.

Noah Webster December 17, 2012 at 02:30 pm

Carolyn McCarthy is a disgrace. Unfortunately she is but one of many opportunistic, delusional vultures preying on the carrion of our collective psyche. The mental health system in this country is failing miserably, yet the simple minded parrot the denouncement of inanimate objects, and do so horribly at that. Regarding this massacre, I have heard the media reference "bushwacker" assault weapons, "high powered machine guns," and alleging that the shooter had "thirty clips," for each gun amongst other glaring and pathetic inaccuracies. Anyone who for a minute thinks that Carolyn McCarthy or her ilk have any knowledge of that which they condemn need only watch this clip: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ospNRk2uM3U
It is pathetic that anyone so blatantly ignorant of something is given any credence whatsoever and is indicative of how twisted the media is, and how arrogant politicians are. It doesn't speak well of the electorate either.

Larry December 17, 2012 at 02:48 pm

The right to bear arms is guaranteed in the Constitution of the United States, passed in 1776. We know the history of why it was then part of the Constitution. These historical reasons no longer exist in today’s United States. Perhaps it should no longer be a “right” to own guns.
Congresswoman McCarthy, please continue your years long struggle to get something done from very uncooperative politicians in Washington, DC.

Jack Kett December 17, 2012 at 05:40 pm

McCarthy is a disgraceful liberal Democratic hack. Her family were vicitms of a racist killer no different from down south by the k lan. She can even admit that otherwise her Democratic handlers wont nominate her again. This case was caused by a mentally ill young person who was ignored by people in the know, including the school system. Its time we start tracking this ill people for our safety.

Former Long Islander December 17, 2012 at 06:06 pm

Carolyn McCarthy’s husband was killed 19 years ago by Colin Ferguson on the LIRR. It was tragic but that fact in no way made here qualified for congress. She simply exploited the sympathy of her neighbors to run for congress.
Colin Ferguson boarded a Long Island commuter train and began shooting the passengers with a Ruger P-89 9mm pistol. The incident known as the Long Island Railroad Massacre resulted in six people being killed and 19 injured. If one person on that train had a handgun and carry permit they could have put a stop to Ferguson who just walked around shooting people at will with no one able to stop him.

Patrick Smith December 17, 2012 at 07:16 pm

80 % of crime is stopped because people carring guns stop crimes,Saturdaty in Oregon a gunman was getting ready to start shooting when a person carrying a gun took out his gun and pointed the gun at the criminal ,when all of a sudden the criminal took his gun and shot himself in head dead,

Tideline December 17, 2012 at 08:19 pm

It turns out more people are killed each year with knives than with guns.
http://www.economicpolicyjournal.com/2012/12/how-people-are-murdered-in-united-states.html

Tideline December 17, 2012 at 08:22 pm

FLI, thanks for the synopsis. I wish Ferguson had gotten on a Bus that day instead. No sense compounding the misery. Since the Vulture moniker has caught on, from this point forward on the Patch, McCarthy should be referred to as "our Congressional VULTURE". We will all know to whom we are referring.

Tideline December 17, 2012 at 08:25 pm

I notice that our President makes no mention of the other contributing factors here, our broken Mental Health Care system, changes in the law that will share mental patients information with the proper authorities with more ease and an easier way to get mental deviates comitted, violence in movies and TV, as well as Video games. Nah, you don't want to cross the Hollywood elite, they donate compaign funds. The whole system is corrupt.

Patrick Smith December 17, 2012 at 08:58 pm

pres forced crocadile tears

Tideline December 17, 2012 at 10:23 pm

Just saw our Cong. Vulture on CNN. She will introduce a "clip" ban first, before the AWB. Oh, wait a scond, we already have the law in here NYS since 1994. We already tried the AWB for 10 years, it was shown by all studies including the FBI to have made no difference in the crime level and crime has been decreasing ever since. Will they address the culture of violence in music, video games, movies, TV and the failed mental health care system, NO. The AWB did not work the last time, the Gun Free School zones has not made us safer, it has killed more children than when we did not have it and still they will not address the many other significant factors in this complex problem, so these attacks will continue to happen. Should we talk about how many AW are out there anyway? AR15 has been the #1 in sales over the last ten years and this will continue at a more rapid pace until and if this new ban takes place.

PitBull December 17, 2012 at 11:16 pm

Hey McCarthy, let's get a ban on violent video,movies and tv shows

Tideline December 18, 2012 at 12:02 am

If I hear on CNN that again that no Licensed Civilian has ever intervened in a mass shooting, I am going to throw up on my TV. Such lies. I am not fact checker, but it did not take 5 seconds to google this. I am sure there are more, but this does not fit the agenda of the Left. Clearly, Wilson died saving the life of Arroyos own son and who knows how many other civilians and LE Personnel, in the area of the Court House. Once again, don't let the facts get in the way of working your agenda.
Feb 24, 2005 Smith County Court House Shooting: At the time of the shooting, Estrada and her son, David Hernandez Arroyo Jr., were entering the courthouse for a hearing regarding her ex-husband's failure to pay child support after their 2004 divorce. Estrada's lawyer later stated that his client did not believe her ex-husband to be dangerous. Arroyo, who had parked and lay in wait nearby the courthouse, approached his ex-wife and son on the steps outside the Smith County Courthouse and fired on them with a MAK-90, a semi-automatic rifle styled after the AK-47. Maribel Estrada was hit in the head and killed instantly, and Arroyo Jr. was hit in the leg and wounded. Both fell to the ground at the front courthouse steps. Nearby law enforcement and law enforcement officers already present at the courthouse responded to the initial shots and began exchanging fire with Arroyo. At this point, the law enforcement officers were only armed with pistols, and Arroyo was able to wound several and force them to retreat. A local resident, Mark Alan Wilson, was in his downtown loft when he heard the shooting begin. He looked out his window and saw Arroyo at the courthouse steps engaged in a shootout with law enforcement. Wilson, who held a Texas concealed handgun permit, immediately armed himself with his Colt .45 caliber pistol, and left his residence to intervene in the gun battle. Because Arroyo was already engaged in a heated gun battle with sheriff's deputies and Tyler police officers, he did not see Wilson approach from behind. As Wilson approached Arroyo from behind, Arroyo was taking aim at his son who he had already shot in the leg and wounded. Acting to defend the life of Arroyo's son, Wilson fired a round from approximately 50 feet which struck Arroyo in the back causing him to stumble and taking his attention away from his son. A witness who saw Wilson's round strike Arroyo reported seeing "white puffs of powder-like substance" come from Arroyo's clothing. This is believed to be the first time Arroyo was hit or injured during his attack on the courthouse. Wilson was forced to take cover behind Arroyo's truck in a prone position and exchanged fire with Arroyo. As Arroyo began to approach Wilson's position, he stood up from behind cover and fired again, hitting Arroyo. Unknown to Wilson, Arroyo was wearing a bulletproof vest, rendering Wilson's shots ineffective. Arroyo eventually fired a shot that struck Wilson, who faltered and fell from the view of witnesses, face down behind Arroyo's truck. Arroyo then walked up to Wilson and fired three more shots at him, killing him. [edit]

Frank McQuade December 18, 2012 at 12:33 pm

Leave us alone and allow us to own arms as the Constitution provides. Vicious, knee-jerk generalizations from the usual suspects puts civil liberties at risk.

King December 18, 2012 at 12:43 pm

Sounding off on a website will really do a lot of good and change the world.

Tideline December 18, 2012 at 11:32 pm

The Second Amendment does not use the word
"hunting" anywhere in it and has absolutley nothing to do with hunting. That is just spin that the Left puts out, to distract from the real purpose of the Second Amendment. The 2nd Amendment has to do with protecting American Citizens from Gov't and politicians like our Vulture. That is why it was included in the Bill of Rights. It seems as necessary then, as it does right now.

Brent M. December 20, 2012 at 02:03 am

Just curious.. Has the East Meadow School District put out any type of response since the shooting happened.. as in , If it was addressed in school, ( it hasnt been yet).. What do they say to students if one asks about the Newtown Incident,?.. what new policies are being implimented?,... What are the soft areas of each school that are going to need change.. ? Is it just me.. or is the School District playing the "IT WONT HAPPEN HERE.. SO LETS NOT MAKE CHANGES CARD??? :::::::::::::::::: Can anyone answer this.. maybe even the patch Editor???

Patrick Smith December 21, 2012 at 07:25 am

AMEN TIDE , FIRST THEY,LL COME AFTER THE SECOND AMENDMENT AND THEN THEY,LL COME AFTER US . ENSLAVEMENT

Patrick Smith December 21, 2012 at 07:27 am

THEY HATE THIS CONSTITUTION WE HAVE AND WANT TO ELIMINATE OUR FREEDOM AND RIGHTS

LI Lawyer December 22, 2012 at 07:27 am

The constitution is a wonderful document. It protects many important rights, including the "right to bear arms." But it's equally important to remember that the constitution is not a suicide pact. We live in a democracy governed by laws made by our elected representatives. Reasonable laws restricting the "right to bear arms" are perfectly constitutional.
As Judge Scalia explained in District of Columbia v Heller, the second amendment's right to bear arms "is not unlimited" and has never allowed anyone to "keep and carry any weapon whatsoever." Congress and the states can pass "laws imposing conditions and qualifications on the commercial sale of arms." They can prohibit the carrying of "dangerous and unusual weapons." And most importantly, "weapons that are most useful in military service—M-16 rifles and the like—may be banned..." for general civilian use. That's the law, folks. Congress can act to ban the kind of weapon that killed these poor innocent kids. You can have a gun for protection, you can have rifles for hunting, but please, accept common sense limits on assault weapons and large ammo clips.

Eddie December 22, 2012 at 08:25 am

The rules being proposed by Congress and the administration will not affect ownership of Bushmaster rifles. Despite the lies you are believing, the Bushmaster is neither "high power" or an "assault rifle" by the proposals' definitions. So why do you think you are being lied to by the government? Why?